Vic Basile remembers the time a reporter asked him if, as the first executive director of the Human Rights Campaign, he would push for same-sex marriage to be legalized.

“Oh, no, we’re not interested,” he remembers telling the journalist, back in the mid-1980s.

The idea that Americans would broadly accept same-sex marriage seemed inconceivable to him at the time, and demanding equality on that front seemed strategically unwise. “I wanted to deflect the whole issue because I thought that would really set us back,”

Basile says now. But then Ellen DeGeneres came out on national television, pride parades went mainstream and the Supreme Court affirmed the right of same-sex couples to marry. Basile was stunned by the progress.

“The pendulum will eventually start to swing back,” Vic Basile says. Ricky Carioti/The Washington Post

Lately, Basile — who is 76 and, per his LinkedIn page, “Retired!!!” — has been stunned by something else: the constant news headlines about conservative political attacks on the LGBTQ community. Books featuring LGBTQ characters have been banned from libraries. In February, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican, issued a directive ordering child protective services agencies to investigate parents who provide gender-affirming medical treatments to their transgender children.

Two months later, Florida governor Ron DeSantis, also a Rebublican, signed the Parental Rights in Education bill, known to opponents as the “don’t say gay” bill, which attempts to limit discussion of LGBTQ topics in schools. Lawmakers in a dozen other states proposed copycat laws. Those who oppose such bills have found themselves being characterized as being in favor of “grooming” children, a term typically associated with child sexual predators.

It wasn’t long ago that overtly homophobic politics seemed to be fading, at least in the mainstream. In 2021, a Gallup poll found that 70% of Americans supported same-sex marriage — including 55% of Republicans. However, as conservatives have regrouped after losing control of Washington, there has been a resurgence in rhetoric suggesting that talking about gay and transgender-related topics is a threat to children.

“It’s frightening,” Basile said on a recent afternoon from the couch of his Chevy Chase, Md., apartment, and he’s not the only longtime LGBTQ activist watching with alarm.

“Devastating,” is the word used by Hilary Rosen, the first lobbyist Basile hired at the Human Rights Campaign.

“Scary,” says Imani Woody, a longtime activist for Black and elder gay rights.

“Terrifying,” says Vivian Shapiro, a veteran activist and former co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign Fund, which raises money for the organization.

“It gives me despair,” said Elizabeth Birch, who served as executive director of the HRC from 1995 to 2004. “We really, really have won the hearts and minds of the majority of Americans — this is a despairing set back.”

Basile, who grew up Catholic and spent 10 years married to a woman, started championing LGBTQ rights as a union organizer even before he’d come out of the closet. In the 1970s he was working at a federal agency, then known as ACTION, when he heard about a transgender woman at the agency who was fired after attempting to use the women’s restroom.

Basile brought the issue to civil rights leader and future congressman John Lewis, then the director of the agency, and in a letter compared the prejudice this woman encountered to the discrimination faced by people of color. Lewis quickly rehired the woman.

After coming out, Basile began to fight to get his union of government workers to pass a resolution in support of nondiscrimination legislation. And in 1983, he was tapped to lead the HRC, which was originally created as a political action committee that would raise money for candidates who pledged to support a gay civil rights bill. Soon there was a more pressing priority: AIDS. One of Basile’s biggest professional victories came in 1986, after evidence emerged that the drug AZT was showing promise as an AIDS treatment. Despite that good news, there was no money to distribute the drug. So Basile, Rosen and one other associate secured an 11th-hour meeting with Lowell Weicker, a senator from Connecticut who was chair of the subcommittee responsible for funding. “I don’t know what I can do,” Basile remembers Weicker saying, but the next day the senator spoke of their meeting on the Senate floor and requested $47 million be included in the budget to distribute AZT. The money was approved.

“This is still emotional for me,” Basile says, choking back tears beneath his black-frame glasses. “It was the first big victory.” It felt like the federal government was finally responding to the pleas of the gay community after years of neglect. More people started coming out, and before long, Basile and his fellow advocates were again fighting for acknowledgment and fair treatment outside the context of a public health crisis.

“It was a march toward the middle,” Rosen says, “toward encouraging the perception that there are gay people in every family, in every party and every religion.” In 2011, the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy was repealed. LGBTQ celebrities and shows like “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy,” gained huge followings. In 1985, 89% of people reported they’d be upset if a child came out to them as gay or lesbian, according to a Los Angeles Times poll; by 2015, the year the Supreme Court affirmed the right of same-sex couples to marry, that share had plummeted to 39% in a Pew Research Center poll. “The Struggle for Gay Rights Is Over,” proclaimed the headline of a 2019 essay in the Atlantic, and while not everybody agreed with that idea, the fact that someone felt they had enough evidence to argue the point was a sign of significant gains.

“We went from the gutter to glory, culturally, from the 1950s to now — a complete transformation of how LGBTQ are viewed,” Birch says.

The embrace of transgender people has lagged, especially on the right. A July Pew Research poll including 54% of Republicans and those who lean Republican — thought greater acceptance of transgender people was bad for society. Some activists say fears around transgender issues have been used to stoke the flames of a renewed culture war.

Birch had been despairing for months about the drumbeat of attacks on LGBTQ rights from conservative politicians when the draft Supreme Court opinion that could overturn Roe v. Wade leaked. “My activist heart exploded, once again, when I saw this draft opinion,” she says.

She sees the possible overturning of Roe as the start of “an era of disintegration of individual freedom” that could jeopardize not just abortion rights but same-sex marriage, interracial marriage and other reproductive rights. As drafted, the leaked Supreme Court opinion says that the decision would not apply to any right except abortion, but that has provided cold comfort to legal scholars who see it as a potential precedent that could be leveraged to overturn other rights that aren’t specifically referenced in the constitution.

Vivian Shapiro, former co-chair of the HRC Fund, worries that a rise in anti-LGBTQ sentiment will actually be harder for young people today than it was for her generation. “We know the struggle. We know what it’s like to lose a job when you come out in the 1970s as a lesbian, or to lose an apartment. They have not known any of that.”

To Imani Woody, the anti-gay rhetoric already feels like an attempt to push the movement back to the 1970s. The longtime activist for Black and elder gay rights worries about a return to the time when she and her wife used to carry powers-of-attorney papers with them everywhere — so that if one of them was hurt, the other would be allowed in the hospital. “My grandsons understand that ‘Nana is gay,’ ” Woody says. “It’s just a fact of life. Now folks can’t say gay? It’s like 12 steps back. What the what? My heart is broken.”

What galls Basile the most is that he sees the renewed attacks on LGBTQ rights as purely strategic. “I don’t think any of them really believe this stuff,” he says of the conservative politicians pushing legislation like the Parental Rights in Education bill. Either way, Basile fears a rise in hate crimes and widespread discrimination. “It’s going to hurt people physically and emotionally,” he says. “They’re going to be demonized and they’re going to be subject to humiliation.”

It’s a difficult thing to watch from retirement. Basile’s activism days are mostly over. Now, he says, “I give money,” to LGTBQ causes. He’s been working on a memoir titled “Bending Toward Justice,” a reference to the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. quote: “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” He still believes that, even in this dark moment. The silver lining of the AIDS crisis, to Basile, was that it drove thousands of people out of the closet. They got angry and they acted. He hopes the same will be true of this moment.

“The pendulum will eventually start to swing back,” Basile says. “But God knows how long it will take for that to happen and how much more damage will get done in the meantime.”